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accurately depict that residence?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Could you please describe that property for the
Grand Jury?
A.
It's a villa in Palm Beach, right on the water,
has an in-ground pool along with a guest residence or
apartment connected to it.
Q.
I want to turn now and talk to you about some of
the witnesses you've interviewed during your investigation.
During the course of this investigation have you
participated in interviews with an individual named
A.
Yes.
Q.
For today's purposes I'm just going to refer to
her as
. About how many times have you interviewed
A.
We've spoken to her approximately five times.
Q.
Turning to the next slide. Are these photographs
A.
Yes.
Q.
Did she tell you approximately how old she was
when both of these photographs were taken?
A.
Yes.
Q.
What did she tell you?
A.
The photo on the left she was approximately 13
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years old, and the photo on the right she would have been 17
years old.
Q.
What is
date of birth?
A.
.
Q•
In addition to your participation in interviews
with
, have you also reviewed reports from other law
enforcement officers who've interviewed
?
A.
Yes.
Q.
And is your testimony today based on both your
review of those reports and also your personal participation
in interviews with
?
A.
Yes.
FOREPERSON:
Can you speak up a little bit more?
Okay, thanks.
BY MS.
Q.
Okay. So based on your participation in this
investigation, have you learned where
was living when
she was about 14 years old?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Where was she living?
A.
She was living in
Q.
Was she living with her parents?
A.
No, not at that time.
Q.
Why not?
A.
She had a difficult home life.
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Q.
Was she going to school?
A.
She had started and dropped out.
Q.
About when did she drop out of school?
A.
The beginning of her freshman year, a few months
into her freshman year, approximately.
Q.
And at about this time how was she supporting
herself financially, in general?
A.
She worked different jobs. She worked in catering
halls, as a waitress in restaurants and in clubs.
Q.
Did there come a time when
learned about.
Jeffrey Epstein?
A.
Yes.
Q.
How did that first happen?
A.
She met a girl named
who told her that she
could make money if she massaged this rich guy.
Q.
And when she heard that from
, how did she
respond?
A.
She wanted to make money, so she agreed.
Q.
What did she agree to do?
A.
She agreed to go to his residence and massage him.
Q.
Did
recall about how old she was when she
first went to his residence?
A.
She said she was approximately 14.
Q.
If
was born in 1988, would she have been 14
in the year 2002?
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A.
Yes.
Q.
And just to confirm, the date of birth listed on
this slide, is that
date of birth?
A.
Yes.
Q.
So you testified that she ultimately went to his
residence. Which residence was that?
A.
The one here in Manhattan.
Q.
About how many times did she go to Epstein's
residence?
A.
Multiple times, dozens.
Q.
During the time she went to Epstein's residence in
Manhattan, did she tell you about what typically would
happen when she would go to his house?
A.
Yes.
Q.
What are some of the things that she told you
about what happened there?
A.
So the first time she went she went with
And she entered the residence; they waited in the office
until they were escorted upstairs to the massage room. Once
in the massage room Jeffrey Epstein came into the room, he
laid down on the table.
Once he was on the table a girl massaged each
side. And then
would be asked to leave the room,
would stay. From there, once he turned over he
wanted his nipples pinched while he masturbated. Things
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progressed each additional time she went. She would have to
massage him while she was in her panties or without
underwear on or any clothes on. And then eventually he
would touch her. He touched her breasts, her genital area
and then used a vibrator on her genital area.
Q.
Did
tell you how much she was paid for each
of these sessions?
A.
Yes.
Q.
How was she paid?
A.
$300.
Q.
Was she paid in cash?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Did she remember anything in particular about the
way he paid her in cash?
A.
She was paid in hundred dollar bills.
Q.
During your interviews with
what was her
demeanor like when she would describe to you how Epstein